[zakh]

Hello, just trying to deal with my ecoboom anxiety.
I have recently bought a 2016 EB with 69k miles on it. After few weeks of usage I found out one of the "Ecoboom" articles and started feeling anxious about it. I think, that I wouldn't be able to replace the engine in case of blowing up so I want just to secure myself in order to make the engine last up to 100k.
I was filling 91 fuel while found some negative ignition corrections on wot. They weren't common but sometimes I have seen down to -4 corrections. After that I totally switched to 93oct and negative corrections were gone ( I still could see -1 on random cyl once a week ).
What was done to the car:

• Roush Cai
• NGK spark plugs (.28' gap)
• Replaced LFPS ( by previous owner )
• Replaced evap purge hose
• Cobb stage 1 (91)

It's my daily driver for now with no option to swap it earlier than a year, so any advices would be appreciated.
( Also sorry for my mistakes in the article, I'm not a native speaker and also I'm new to cars. Just seeking for peace of mind )

 

[Coyote Chaser]

After market intercooler

 

[Buldawg76]

Stay with top tier 93 octane fuels such as name brand exxon, chevron, texaco, shell, mobil or ones from this list.

Fuel Stations - TOP TIER™

TOP TIER™ Licensed Brands prominently display the TOP TIER™ logo on the pump, pump handle, canopy or in a station window.

toptiergas.com

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[michaelfried665]

^ Buldawg76's response is the key. My opinion for what its worth? I'd remove the made up word "Ecoboom" from the internet and rename the phenomenon "Bad/Low Octane Gas selection issues" because 99.99% of all of these so-called issues are really a mistake the owner makes by not being aware of the physics involved with turbo engines and how critical top tier gasoline is for ALL turbo engines.

 

[zakh]

Thanks for your replies. As I'm not pushing the engine hard so I think I would go with top tier gas for now. We should really delete this word from web. I've just found some threads that started like: "I was just cruising 35mph when engine spat out the rod". Boom-threads + anxiety port is a painful combo 🤣

 

[michaelfried665]

Thanks for your replies. As I'm not pushing the engine hard so I think I would go with top tier gas for now. We should really delete this word from web. I've just found some threads that started like: "I was just cruising 35mph when engine spat out the rod". Boom-threads + anxiety port is a painful combo 🤣

I call all stuff like this "fear porn" because fear and anxiety gets clicks and attention online. Years ago with the coyote 5.0 L there was a non-existent thing that essentially the same ridiculous stuff as "ecoboom" but being called "typewriter tick" and everyone with the Gen 3 coyote engine ('18-up) was worried their engine was ready to fail. Actual failure rate was in the dozen or so that year range, and it was only in the very early '18's and it was the failure of the plasma cylinder sleeves as they were pressed into the block before production assembly of the engine. Legit Ford recalls were super low for this design flaw. Yet for a couple years on YouTube people were creating "give me attention" videos about it. Its how this internet thingy works...sadly.

 

[Coyote Chaser]

Motor oil is also important, make sure you use an oil that is formulated for 'Direct Injected, Gasoline, Turbocharged" motors.

 

[gatornek]

Use full synthetic motor oil and the highest octane gas available, get yourself a good catch can, replace the stock intercooler if its still there, and don't lug the car if its a manual. Voila!

If you're on the stock tune, I wouldn't worry about it too much. Most 'Ecobooms' happen with cars that are tuned up and trying to push more horsepower. The stock tune has a lot of safety features in place that pull power and timing if it senses that things are off.

 

[johnnybee]

There are hundreds of thousands of Ecoboost engines running around. They are not unique to the Mustang. What is seemingly unique to the Mustang is them being blown up. I am quite confident that the reporting is skewed simply because the forums represent a very small percentage of ownership, even amongst Mustang owners.

 

[Buldawg76]

All above advice is spot on.

BD

 

[Stang stampede]

So remove the tune and he’s good? i Thought Cobb ots tunes were pretty safe and reliable.

 

[Buldawg76]

So remove the tune and he’s good? i Thought Cobb ots tunes were pretty safe and reliable.

OTS tunes are safe for the most part if not allowing the motor to be lugged excessively or going to WOT from below 2000 rpm in higher gears. What was referred to above is people going with pro tunes trying to push the motor past its safe limit of 350/400 rwhp level. 350 is a safe limit and 400 is right on the verge of failure if you get a bad tank of gas or have any cylinder misfires/detonations issues.

BD

 

[Stang stampede]

Ah good explanation. I am about to purchase a cobb access for my wife's 2015 and run just the 91 tune with 93 octane. Hers is auto so lugging the motor isn't a thing floor it and will down shift bringing them RPMs up quickly.

 

[Stang stampede]

Also I bought the 1 step colder plugs from tune plus. Car has only 21k on it should I replace with them or just check the gap on the stock plugs.

 

[Stang stampede]

Hello, just trying to deal with my ecoboom anxiety.
I have recently bought a 2016 EB with 69k miles on it. After few weeks of usage I found out one of the "Ecoboom" articles and started feeling anxious about it. I think, that I wouldn't be able to replace the engine in case of blowing up so I want just to secure myself in order to make the engine last up to 100k.
I was filling 91 fuel while found some negative ignition corrections on wot. They weren't common but sometimes I have seen down to -4 corrections. After that I totally switched to 93oct and negative corrections were gone ( I still could see -1 on random cyl once a week ).
What was done to the car:

• Roush Cai
• NGK spark plugs (.28' gap)
• Replaced LFPS ( by previous owner )
• Replaced evap purge hose
• Cobb stage 1 (91)

It's my daily driver for now with no option to swap it earlier than a year, so any advices would be appreciated.
( Also sorry for my mistakes in the article, I'm not a native speaker and also I'm new to cars. Just seeking for peace of mind )

Do you like the Roush intake? I heard a lot of good reviews about the sound they make. I know it's not making any additional HP or very little. Just don't want engine lights if I install one.

 

[Buldawg76]

Also I bought the 1 step colder plugs from tune plus. Car has only 21k on it should I replace with them or just check the gap on the stock plugs.

No need for one step colder plugs on OTS stage 1 tune, just set gap on stock plugs to 0.028" and enjoy. If the stock plugs appear worn at all just replace with stock plugs. One step colder plug are for use with custom pro tunes.

BD

 

[Stang stampede]

No need for one step colder plugs on OTS stage 1 tune, just set gap on stock plugs to 0.028" and enjoy. If the stock plugs appear worn at all just replace with stock plugs. One step colder plug are for use with custom pro tunes.

BD

Thanks

 

[magneto]

Hello, just trying to deal with my ecoboom anxiety.
I have recently bought a 2016 EB with 69k miles on it. After few weeks of usage I found out one of the "Ecoboom" articles and started feeling anxious about it. I think, that I wouldn't be able to replace the engine in case of blowing up so I want just to secure myself in order to make the engine last up to 100k.
I was filling 91 fuel while found some negative ignition corrections on wot. They weren't common but sometimes I have seen down to -4 corrections. After that I totally switched to 93oct and negative corrections were gone ( I still could see -1 on random cyl once a week ).
What was done to the car:

• Roush Cai
• NGK spark plugs (.28' gap)
• Replaced LFPS ( by previous owner )
• Replaced evap purge hose
• Cobb stage 1 (91)

It's my daily driver for now with no option to swap it earlier than a year, so any advices would be appreciated.
( Also sorry for my mistakes in the article, I'm not a native speaker and also I'm new to cars. Just seeking for peace of mind )

I also had EB anxiety in the early days of the Ecoboom phenomenon (2015) and determined it was mostly ECU flashed/modified, and user error issues. I decided to keep my engine completely stock except a K&N filter for a full 5 years just to be sure my assumption was correct.

In the early days, whenever someone blew an engine they would either lie about the mods or blame Ford for an engine defect without ever providing any proof. There is a plethora of misinformation on the subject by people who sell the tunes and people who just believe and repeat anything they hear or read.

So after 5 years and 40k miles I figured it was safe to start improving some things but I did so very cautiously with direct replacement parts and a very mild ECU flash. 7 years later my engine still runs flawless and without a single mechanical issue with the engine. I have the OEM LFPS, EVAP purge hose, and off the shelf plugs. I run the same oil blend that came from the factory in 2015.

IMO, one major factor causing Ecoboom is most likely a low Octane event combined with an aggressive ECU flash. As a troubleshooter by trade I ask "how would I replicate a problem" and the answer in the Ecoboom is a 93 Race ECU flash and 87 Octane. This could result in an Ecoboom. Also, several members who blew engines were literally a few miles away from where they filled up with gas.

My recommendations:

1.> Use the highest Octane fuel available, I run a 91 performance tune on 93 Octane. This give some room for error or bad gas.
2.> Get a catch can installed to limit contamination of the Octane. I was shocked to see just how much oil sludge was being captured by the can.
3.> Get the CFM valve cover breather to vent positive crankcase pressure to atmosphere. This will reduce the amount of blow-by and therefore reduce Octane contamination. This will also help limit gasket failures.
4.> Don't run the gas tank to empty and try to top off when below 1/2 tank. This will help maintain a more consistent Octane level.

 

[zakh]

I also had EB anxiety in the early days of the Ecoboom phenomenon (2015) and determined it was mostly ECU flashed/modified, and user error issues. I decided to keep my engine completely stock except a K&N filter for a full 5 years just to be sure my assumption was correct.

In the early days, whenever someone blew an engine they would either lie about the mods or blame Ford for an engine defect without ever providing any proof. There is a plethora of misinformation on the subject by people who sell the tunes and people who just believe and repeat anything they hear or read.

So after 5 years and 40k miles I figured it was safe to start improving some things but I did so very cautiously with direct replacement parts and a very mild ECU flash. 7 years later my engine still runs flawless and without a single mechanical issue with the engine. I have the OEM LFPS, EVAP purge hose, and off the shelf plugs. I run the same oil blend that came from the factory in 2015.

IMO, one major factor causing Ecoboom is most likely a low Octane event combined with an aggressive ECU flash. As a troubleshooter by trade I ask "how would I replicate a problem" and the answer in the Ecoboom is a 93 Race ECU flash and 87 Octane. This could result in an Ecoboom. Also, several members who blew engines were literally a few miles away from where they filled up with gas.

My recommendations:

1.> Use the highest Octane fuel available, I run a 91 performance tune on 93 Octane. This give some room for error or bad gas.
2.> Get a catch can installed to limit contamination of the Octane. I was shocked to see just how much oil sludge was being captured by the can.
3.> Get the CFM valve cover breather to vent positive crankcase pressure to atmosphere. This will reduce the amount of blow-by and therefore reduce Octane contamination. This will also help limit gasket failures.
4.> Don't run the gas tank to empty and try to top off when below 1/2 tank. This will help maintain a more consistent Octane level.

Thanks for your recommendations. It seems like I don't have an opportunity to buy a cfm valve cover breather in my area. Could I use any other that fits?

 

[Buldawg76]

Here ya go.

Billet One-Way Valve Cover Crankcase Breather Kit - Eliminate Crankcase Pressure | eBay

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