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HI all, I'm ting to decide where to go next. On the agenda are, brake upgrade, chassis stiffning, and suspension. I am having trouble deciding which is more important for chasing lap times. If you don't mind tell me where it's at. I can probably afford a pad upgrade and basic chassis stiffning or can I get by with factory breaks and invest elsewhere?
 

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Brakes. If you are tracking, not autocrossing. Suspension would be first in the world of Auto-X

I always recommend a season or two on a stock chassis, so you can adjust the "nut behind the wheel."
 

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Brakes. If you are tracking, not autocrossing. Suspension would be first in the world of Auto-X

I always recommend a season or two on a stock chassis, so you can adjust the "nut behind the wheel."
Thank you. We Auto-x every month and are trying to find time to hit up Mid Ohio this season, hopefully!
Decisions need to be made!
 

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Whoa! Mid-Ohio is a great track!! The ESSES and "The carosel" are to die for in track design. You'll need some RBF600 or better for that track!!
 
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Thanks again, didn't even consider fluid!
 

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Just basic ecostang brakes at the moment.
Thanks, sounds like a good plan.
 
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I feel brakes will give more gain per buck than suspension/chassis stiffening starting out being able to brake later into turns and carry more speed thru corners. Then learn the suspension weak point once you can slow it down with brakes.

You can find some good 4 piston GT brakes on ebay for decent prices with low miles, just realize you will need the GT backing plates, rotors and caliper mounting bolts since they are a torque to yield fastener and a one time use only fastener.

Those are the brakes that also come on the HPP ecos.

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Great info. Thanks for the list BD.
 
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I lucked out at picked up a set of front and rear calipers off ebay with 13,000 miles on them from an 18 GT including pads and hoses for 70 bucks including shipping. The right front caliper has some very light scrapes on the inside lower corner that you cannot see from outside and after I smooth the marks out and paint them only, I will ever know it's there. The pads look almost brand new with easily 90% of pad life left.

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HI all, I'm ting to decide where to go next. On the agenda are, brake upgrade, chassis stiffning, and suspension. I am having trouble deciding which is more important for chasing lap times. If you don't mind tell me where it's at. I can probably afford a pad upgrade and basic chassis stiffning or can I get by with factory breaks and invest elsewhere?
 

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I started with MBRP racing exhaust, rousch intake and intercooler, lowering springs, ford perf sways, steeda jump stiffers back, also steeda crossbar under front, cross bar brace over top engine. Blew out brakes and upgraded to brembo six calipers on front then upgraded powerstop on back. Did ford performance tune, then got too hot and upgraded to a mishi oil cooler, then still hot so I upgraded to mishimoto race radiator. Two step colder sparks, mishi coolant expansion tank, pilot sport tires to name a few. If you are taking to track, go with all of these. If just autocross, better tires and some suspension upgrades should be fine. The ford performace tower brace on top was so easy and inexpensive for your first suspension upgrade on auto cross.
Thanks, didn't need your build list. Already have strut tower brace, and tires. Specifically asked if I should upgrade brake system, tighten the chassis a bit, or upgrade suspension. No need to reply.
 

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Brakes first, GT or GT PP with good pads and fluid. Then I would tackle some of the suspension bushing compliance that cause dynamic alignment changes under load starting with the rear knuckle bushings and lower control arm bushing. BUT, I would wait before doing the suspension stuff until you get some track time with the brake upgrade to calibrate the driver. I always advise incremental changes where you determine how it affected things. Too many things at once can get you guessing as to cause when negative effects are exper.
 

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Brakes first, GT or GT PP with good pads and fluid. Then I would tackle some of the suspension bushing compliance that cause dynamic alignment changes under load starting with the rear knuckle bushings and lower control arm bushing. BUT, I would wait before doing the suspension stuff until you get some track time with the brake upgrade to calibrate the driver. I always advise incremental changes where you determine how it affected things. Too many things at once can get you guessing as to cause when negative effects are exper.
Great info. Thank you.
 
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