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New owner with a question on Maintenance

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#1 ·
Hey guys,
Just bought my ecoboost in July and I got a maintenance plan included with my ecoboost.
I have never had a stang before so I am not sure what oil to ask for, what to expect at the first inspection cycle etc.

I've read on here that people are swapping oils at 2k miles, is waiting till 7500 miles to long for the oil change?

Should I just go by the owners manual maintenance guide?

I plan on getting an oil catch can soon, will that affect my maintenance with ford?
Ive had the car for 3 months ( 5k miles) and I'm not sure if I'm overlooking something on maintenance, any thoughts?

I plan on doing my own basic maintenance in the future once the plan expires so any recommendations of oil/filter or links to good reads would be useful.
 
#2 ·
IMO Ford's recommended intervals for maintenance (at least on oil changes) are a bit long, I typically get it done very 5k or so. From the factory they come with semi-synthetic and that's what I've continued to run, I've seen some discussions around it and the consensus seems to be that if you don't change types in the first 1k miles, stick with what you're running (conventional, semi-synth, full-synth).
 
#5 ·
Never use synthetic oil on a turbo engine! It ruins the turbo, because the synthetic oil will build up on the turbo bearings and cause the bearings to be out of tolerance over time! Also never use oil over 5w 30 on a turbo engine! Higher weight is used on engines that have a high rev limit! Also the oil passages that supply the cams are really small, if the oil is too thick it won't feed the cams until the engine warms up! In cold weather on a cold start, you need to feed the cams oil right away!

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#11 ·
As another note, even Ford's recommendations are a bit contradictory in the manual. Based on this page I would say every 5k is best:

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However, further down in the maintenance section it outlines these intervals:

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Part of the reason I picked 5k as the average for myself, I don't know about you but I spend a lot of time in stop/go city traffic and shorter drives where the oil doesn't always get completely up to temp. Better safe than sorry, oil changes are cheap compare to massive engine problems.
 
#4 ·
Here we go...

Do a forum search on this topic. Lots of banter and battles as this is a well argued point. For my part, Mobil One and a Wix XP filter every 5k miles.
 
#9 ·
Ford's asking for trouble, if that's the case! Synthetic oil builds up over time and will make the turbo impeller scrape the turbo housing! Their going to have future problems based on what you've just posted!

Not sure why they would say to use synthetic when everyone who knows turbos know that synthetic oil is designed to line the piston walls! Turbos are made to really tight tolerences! Ford making s big mistake on this one!

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#10 ·
Ford can make mistakes! You see how the first adoptees turned out who were the first to buy the 2015 Ecoboost! Ford changed the internals on them for the 16 and 17 Ecoboost!

Not only that, they said you can run regular unleaded gasoline, and when I tried it, I got a check engine light! So don't think Ford can't make mistakes! Don't yut dare put synthetic oil in that Ecoboost! Your asking for trouble!

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I have to agree that turbo motors really want synthetic. I've had quite a few turbo cars over the years and always use at least a semi-synthetic oil. At the moment I've been doing oil changes on a 5k basis, with having done the first one at 3k, just to be safe. I've also been taking it to the dealer for the oil changes. Mostly because I'm lazy...
 
#36 ·
Hey guys,
Just bought my ecoboost in July and I got a maintenance plan included with my ecoboost.
I have never had a stang before so I am not sure what oil to ask for, what to expect at the first inspection cycle etc.

I've read on here that people are swapping oils at 2k miles, is waiting till 7500 miles to long for the oil change?

Should I just go by the owners manual maintenance guide?

I plan on getting an oil catch can soon, will that affect my maintenance with ford?
Ive had the car for 3 months ( 5k miles) and I'm not sure if I'm overlooking something on maintenance, any thoughts?

I plan on doing my own basic maintenance in the future once the plan expires so any recommendations of oil/filter or links to good reads would be useful.
I'm also an Ecoboost owner as well as a Service Advisor. You will always get many opinions on what oil to use and at what interval to change it. Ford recommends a 5w30 synthetic blend oil and to be changed at no more than 12 months and/or 10k miles. Your vehicle is also equipped with an oil life monitor that gauges the oils life capacity. I myself prefer a 5w30 full synthetic and always recommend every six months or 5-6k miles, which ever comes first. As far as the maintenance, follow Ford's recommended schedules as far as other services go. In my experience in the the industry, you get a lot more life out of a car if you maintain it properly. Just my two cents.....
 
#49 ·
OK, sounds quite reasonable. How about those of us that didn't buy our 'stang new, but picked up one with 20-30k miles on it already? I'm tending toward a full synth for my first oil change, but I don't know what was run in it before I bought it. Would a blend be better?

By the way, msamy79, looks like we're neighbors.
 
#37 ·
Thank you for bringing in the Service Advisor aspect.

I use synthetic oil from the 1st change on, and have for a long time in a wide range of vehicles.
My oil of choice is AmsOil, which I've used since the 80's. I will use the Signature synthetic, initial change at 1k, full change at 5k, then change the filter and top off at 10k, full change 5k thereafter. Being a mechanical-engineer-geek, I get the oil checked by either AmsOil's lab or Blackstone (I believe they are the same) for wear, breakdown and contamination.

Once again, I'm using personal experience, several (actually lots) of race vehicles and many 100's of thousands of miles. (2 different Hondas each with 300,000+ miles on 'em)
 
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Being a mechanical-engineer-geek, I get the oil checked by either AmsOil's lab or Blackstone (I believe they are the same) for wear, breakdown and contamination.
How is this done? Can anyone do it?
 
#38 · (Edited)
Personally I've had many a jap turbo car. Supra, Skyline, S14. All over 20 years old now. Still own the Silvia and the Skyline. I service them every 10k miles with fully syth oil, never have I had a problem. But I also change the plugs at the same time regardless. These are old cars with old tech. Its 2017 now and things have come along way and im sure that the Mustangs been engineered to allow oil changes beyound 10k as well as technologies and advancements in oil means your be more then ok, I had a holden that had 20k service intervals, 10years ago that was unheard of.
 
#39 ·
Thank you for bringing in the Service Advisor aspect.

I use synthetic oil from the 1st change on, and have for a long time in a wide range of vehicles.
My oil of choice is AmsOil, which I've used since the 80's. I will use the Signature synthetic, initial change at 1k, full change at 5k, then change the filter and top off at 10k, full change 5k thereafter. Being a mechanical-engineer-geek, I get the oil checked by either AmsOil's lab or Blackstone (I believe they are the same) for wear, breakdown and contamination.

Once again, I'm using personal experience, several (actually lots) of race vehicles and many 100's of thousands of miles. (2 different Hondas each with 300,000+ miles on 'em)
I couldn't agree more with squid. On many things. This being one.
 
#40 ·
I can only speak from my experience. I have been using Mobil 1, Full Synthetic since 1978. I used it for four years in my 1979 Mustang 5.0, in Germany, running the Autobahn every day at 100+ mph going to and from work. I continued to use it in my Mustang SVO, as well as other T-Charged and Supercharged cars to include my '15 ECO, for 24,400 miles. I have never had a problem with the turbos coking or the superchargers failing. I currently have 2300 miles on my '17 ECO and will be changing to Motorcraft Full Synthetic (while under warranty) at my first change. I do change the oil and filter every six months or 5000 miles due to the adverse weather conditions, especially in winter. The 10,000 miles is not excessive on Synthetic oils. Don't forget the Mustang has an Intelligent Oil Sensor system which will tell you when to change to oil. These are the same type systems used in aircraft. BMW and Mercedes use 15000 mile intervals in Europe, and the same type sensor system. They have said we Americans have been conditioned by the oil companies to change our oil unnecessarily, which is why they only use the 10,000 mile intervals in the U.S. Long story short, everyone has an opinion. Your best bet is to look at your driving and weather conditions. Adjust your oil changes accordingly or just wait for the car to tell you to change it. Don't be panicked by the naysayers on forums. I am 73 years old, spent 13 years overseas, to include Italy and Germany and have never had an engine failure.
 
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#41 ·
Never use synthetic oil on a turbo engine! It ruins the turbo, because the synthetic oil will build up on the turbo bearings and cause the bearings to be out of tolerance over time! Also never use oil over 5w 30 on a turbo engine! Higher weight is used on engines that have a high rev limit! Also the oil passages that supply the cams are really small, if the oil is too thick it won't feed the cams until the engine warms up! In cold weather on a cold start, you need to feed the cams oil right away!

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REALLY? Funny, I have a 30 year old Turbo coupe that has had nothing but Mobil 1. Still original and still running strong.
 
#43 ·
Mate, that could be any number of things other then oil being synth or not. Checkout the design flaw on the Skyline and it's oil starvation issues. Nothing to do with the make up of the oil. Or how about the Supra MKIII head gasket failure nothing to do with the oil or infact the cooling system but under torqued head bolts from factory!!!! I very much doubt the failure was down to the make up of the oil as in FS or other. May have been viscosity issue or even a block but because it was synth, I don't think so.
 
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Well if you going to boost it.......... The above is most likely. Sluged